With all these ideas for meets going around, I got the fever. I will do my best to make the one in Utah but if I am able to I won't be able to bring me car. I know Bill Morris said we should do one in our part of the country (I am hoping he was serious, if not he'd better be now). Anyway, I just talked to John Short also and he would potentially be on board also. I wanted to see who else? I found this place that looks awesome out in Oklahoma, very close to Bill, about 9 hours for me and 8 for John. It's called Little Sahara State Park and it's basically a mini-sahara desert. They have camping, some nice scenery and it's an off-road haven where they rent ATV's (if there is enough of us we could probably secure a group rate). Might be a fun little trek. I don't think 2013 would be feasible but maybe mid-late Spring 2014? It would take that long to grow the interest and get a larger group together. What do yall think?